Re: Indias software MNCs look to China for cheap talent

["Raju Agarwal" <krantikari@hotmail.com>]

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Judging from your post, I would say the only person who is talking shit
is
you.  I could easily respond in kind, but I see no reason to sink to
your
depths.

Try to articulate your point like a civilized human being.
You need to get your head out of your ass before you type your next
message
- Now get lost, loser!

As for "national interest", and "Policy" - the "Japanese Miracle" was
shaped
in part by the Industrial "Policy" of the Japanese Ministry of
International
Trade and Industry (MITI).  Malaysia's Proton has become a world class
Asian
car maker due to the Malaysian government's "Policy" of developing an
indigenous car industry.  It is too bad for Indian vehicle manufacturers

like Telco and Mahindra, that assinine Babus like you have turned India
into
a dumping ground for bankrupt Korean car companies.

With regard to the Indian software industry, are you saying that the sky

will fall if the GoI imposes taxation or partial taxation on software
exports.  Give me break!  How come other countries like Ireland have a
thriving software export industry without providing the tax sops that
the
Indian govt provides.  Even the U.S., the bastion of free enterprise,
uses
the money it collects from H1 visas for re-training American workers.
Why
shouldn't the GoI withdraw tax sops from companies that outsource work
to
other countries and use the money for creating/upgrading schools in
India?
The main beneficiary of the software boom has been the southern and
western
states.  Why not tax software exports and use the money to create
schools
and IT institutes in the North and East to expand the pool of software
professionals?



>From: Abhijeet Pradhan <perdi420@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: debate@indiapolicy.org
>To: debate@indiapolicy.org
>Subject: Re: Indias software MNCs look to China for cheap talent
>Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:39:00 -0800 (PST)
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>Indian software industries cannot put "national interest" before their
own
>survival.  This was bound to happen as the pay scales for indian
>programmers
>goes higher and higher.  Also what "national interest" are you talking
>about?  What kind of perverse thinking is this?  What is in more in
>national
>interest, Indian companies slowly losing business to Chinese companies
and
>dying, or Indian companies hiring cheap chinese labor and growing?
>Competition from all countries including china is inevitable.  Success
in
>IT
>is not our birthright, neither is it guaranteed for all eternity just
>because we have a good start.  Our companies need the freedom to
formulate
>their own strategy and not get it dictated in the form of some policy
by
>some assinine babu like you.  And what shit are you talking about when
you
>say the Indian companies are obligated to the Indian govt...  Who needs

>whom, the software industry needs govt sops/tax breaks or the indian
govt
>needs the dollar revenues from indian software companies?  We do not
need
>more "policy" tying down our companies and our people?  Your stupidity
>makes
>me boil with anger!!
>
>--- Raju Agarwal <krantikari@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
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> > This is an ominous development.
> >
> > I would hope that Indian software companies put the national
interest
> > first
> > and not outsource software development work to China.  Given the tax

> > sops
> > and various benefits the Indian software industry receives from the
> > Government, in my opinion, they have an obligation to maximize job
> > creation
> > within India.
> >
> > Perhaps some Policy should be introduced that ties the above
mentioned
> > sops
> > to a committment to not outsource work to other countries.
> >
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> > India’s software MNCs look to China for cheap talent
> >
> > Snigdha Sengupta
> > MUMBAI
> > IT IS still a far cry from India’s 300,000-strong resource pool but
> > China’s
> > fledgling pool of software professionals, estimated at a little
under
> > 30,000, is drawing more than a passing interest from the big guns of

> > Indian
> > IT -— Tata Consultancy Services, Infosys and Wipro.
> >
> > Wipro, for instance, does not the rule out the possibility of
> > outsourcing
> > part of its offshore development work for US clients from China a
year
> > down
> > the line.
> >
> > TCS has gone one step ahead and set in place a `China Strategic
> > Initiative’
> > at its Bangalore offices. The initiative is headed by R Ramanan, who
is
> > also
> > the regional manager of TCS’ Bangalore operations.
> >
> > The company’s expansion plans in China are of strategic importance
to
> > its
> > larger plans for collaborative ventures in the Asia-Pacific region.
It
> > has
> > offices in Vietnam, Taiwan and Hong Kong.
> >
> > A TCS spokesman in Mumbai said: “TCS is looking at China since the
> > company
> > has always taken a leadership in exploring new opportunities and
> > geographies
> > to maintain its leadership position. We are currently concentrating
on
> > building relationships in that country and it is too premature to
> > provide
> > any details at this stage.”
> >
> > Chinese Prime Minister Li Peng recently visited TCS’ facilities.
Infosys
> > is
> > not fighting shy of China either. Speaking to The Economic Times,
> > Infosys
> > deputy managing director S Gopalakrishnan said: “We believe that
China
> > is a
> > potential competitor in the future, and also a source for talented
IT
> > resources. Hence, it is a potential location to set up a development

> > centre.”
> >
> > The key factor behind this interest is the lower cost structure that

> > will be
> > available to Indian IT firms involved in outsourcing work for US and

> > European clients.
> >
> > Language is the primary constraint China faces today in growing its
> > resource
> > pool to sizeable volumes. If all goes well with the Chinese
government’s
> >
> > English-teaching programme, in 2-3 years China will be able to build
up
> > a
> > large resource pool of software professionals.
> >
> > The good -- or bad, depending on your point of view -— news, is that
the
> >
> > Chinese professional will be at least 15-20 per cent cheaper than
his
> > Indian
> > counterpart.



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