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Re: Democratic political funding....
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Further discussions between MV and JP are placed below, for general info. I
believe this topic needs greater discussion. I still tend to agree with JP
on this. MV: please point out the specific methods by which you can raise a
membership of 5 crore persons, and if possible, launch a demo of it
somewhere.
Sanjeev
At 03:39 PM 2/6/01 +0530, "MV" <maxv@vsnl.com>wrote:
>Dear JP,
>
>It is very much possible and it will truly empower
>and motivate people to participate in the democratic
>process.
>
>Today people in India are not interested in existing
>political parties because they very well know that
>without *equal* participation they don't get equal
>rights/benefits.
>
>I have asked lot of poeple with diverse social and
>economic background, if they are ready to take
>membership of a political party by paying Rs.100/-
>per year if they get the right to decide the
>candidates for elections, almost every one says
>yes!!!
>
>
>Regards,
>
>MV.
>
>
>> Thanks for your email. It is nice to dream of 5 crore members who
>> contribute each Rs.100 a year. The reality is it is hard to raise even
>0.1%
>> of that amount as membership fee. If fee becomes the criterion for
>> membership , then most people stay away. Lok Satta's life time membership
>> fee is only Rs.25, and it is spent locally by members. But we do
>encourage
>> membership as friends of Lok Satta with contribution
>>
>> With warm regards,
>> JP
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "MV" <maxv@vsnl.com>
>> To: "Dr Jayaprakash Narayan" <loksatta@satyam.net.in>
>> Cc: "Sanjeev Sabhlok" <sanjeev@sabhlokcity.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 8:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: Democratic political funding....
>>
>>
>> > Dear Jayaprakash & Sanjeev,
>> >
>> > I very much appreciate the work both of you are
>> > doing. Wish i could join you actively, but i have
>> > set other priorities for next few years, till then
>> > can only participate passively.
>> >
>> > -----
>> >
>> > Any democratic movement that depend on funding by
>> > donations can be easily compromised/influenced/controlled
>> > by the contributors. This is exactly what is happening
>> > today with the major political parties.
>> >
>> > True democratic political movement should be funded
>> > equally by all the members else it will lose it's
>> > democratic nature in a short time.
>> >
>> > It is actually *possible* to build a democratic political
>> > movement in India with democratic membership based
>> > funding.
>> >
>> > Here is some simple arithmetic.....
>> >
>> >
>> > Number of Members = 5 Crores
>> >
>> > Membership fee = Rs.100 per year
>> >
>> > Membership fee collection = Rs.2500 Crores
>> > in 5 years
>> >
>> > (calculate the interest and the sum will be
>> > much more, i leave it out since the membership
>> > mobilization will take some time)
>> >
>> > A membership based political party that can
>> > grow to 5 crores members (5% population of India)
>> > in 5 years, can win the parliament/state elections
>> > and rule India in 10 years, if the party sticks to
>> > democratically electing it's leaders/candidates.
>> >
>> > Such a democratic party can/should pay it's district
>> > level and up leaders what a top private co will
>> > pay it's officers in similar positions.
>> >
>> > I welcome your thoughts....
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > MV.
>> >
>> > > Dear Sanjiv & MV
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for your email. Foundation for Democratic Reforms / Lok Satta
>are
>> > > tax-exempt under Section 80 G of I T Act. We accept contributions only
>> > from
>> > > Indians or persons of Indian origin, but not from foreign foundations.
>> > > Details are available on our Website: www.loksatta.org. We get a lot
>of
>> > > support in the form of volunteer time and in kind.
>> > > With regards,
>> > > Jayaprakash
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "MV (by way of Sanjeev Sabhlok <sanjeev@sabhlokcity.com>)"
>> > > <maxv@vsnl.com>
>> > > To: <fonderef@hd1.vsnl.net.in>
>> > > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 10:30 AM
>> > > Subject: Democratic political funding....
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Dear JP, could you respond on the IPI debate, pl.? Thanks, and with
>> > > > regards, Sanjeev
>> > > >
>> > >
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>> > > > Please help make the Manifesto better, or accept it, and propagate
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>> > > > >From: Dr. Sanjeev Sabhlok
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Solve the root of corruption - else face the ongoing tragedy of
>> India.
>> > > > > Attack the roots through electoral reform and working with
>> > organizations
>> > > > > like Lok Satta. Show the people their rights. Assist them in
>getting
>> > > > > corruption-free services. Join into social groups in each city to
>> work
>> > > > > toward reform. Then join together and contest the electoral
>battle:
>> > > show
>> > > > > the people the path free of corruption.
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > It will be interesting to know the funding model
>> > > > of Lok Satta.
>> > > >
>> > > > MV.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
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