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I can't imagine many greater insults to the great Maratha's name than to
associate it with *THE MOST* Gothic of structures in the probably the entire
country.  We should demolish these shameful reminders of colonial
oppression!  In their place we must build new museums and new rail terminii
in harmony with our ancient and cosmic vastu shastra.

Gargoyles are *not* a part of our cosmic and ancient architectural
tradition.

-rakesh

----- Original Message -----
From: "phadke" <phadke@pn2.vsnl.net.in>
To: <debate@indiapolicy.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Jai Shivaji!


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> Dear Mr. Jal,
>
> Its surprising that you carry a title of Reaseach Associate.
>
> The fundamental priciple in research is NOT to attempt making inferences,
> before all the available data is collected, collated and analysed.
>
> You have done nothing in this.
>
> You have allowed your imagination to fly freely, making generalisations
out
> of stray incidences. Unfortunately, and this is most contemptuous, you
have
> indulged in sprewing venom against some invisible enemies or threats as
> percieved by you and your fertile but incompetent imagination.
>
> I can understand your concern ( even though misplaced ), but to expose it
in
> poison is not better alternative. If you think you wrote a masterpiece of
> satire.............. I would strongly advise you to first take lessons in
> composition ( ref. class VII ).
>
> All you have succeeded is in telling others as how much poison you have in
> your stomach. I only hope it was a long standing accumulation and not that
> you have an in built factory so that this much amount comes out weekly.
>
> Yours is precisely the kind of poison that afflicts our society.  You wait
> for others to sink to your own levels and then start criticising them.
>
> Rise my friend. Rise to higher levels of civilisation. Representing the
> Centre for Civil Society, your first attempt should be to be able to
express
> ones anger, in a civilised way.
>
> Shame on your so called CIVIL society for such un-civilised writings. You
> should be penalised from further writing for a period of 10 years.
>
> S. S. Phadke
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yazad Jal <yazad@ccsindia.org>
> To: debate@indiapolicy.org <debate@indiapolicy.org>
> Date: Friday, January 12, 2001 11:54 PM
> Subject: Jai Shivaji!
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> >Recently, the Maharashtra State government announced its plans to rename
> >the Prince of Wales museum as the Chhatrapati Shivaji Vastusangrahlaya.
> >So now we have that in addition to the Chhatrapti Shivaji Terminus, the
> >Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport, the Chhatrapati Shivaji
> >Domestic Airport, and who knows what else.
> >
> >If this trend continues, we may reasonably speculate what it will be
> >like c 2050 AD...
> >
> >My name is Chhatrapati Shivaji. My father's name is Chhatrapati
> >Shivaji.  My mother's name is Chhatrapati Shivaji. My brothers, sisters,
> >uncles and aunts are all named Chhatrapati Shivaji.  All other names
> >have long since been outlawed.
> >
> >I wake up everyday at 6:30 am (Chhatrapati Standard Time) to go to my
> >school: Chhatrapati Shivaji Vidyamandir. It was a little confusing
> >getting there at first, because all schools in the city have the same
> >name. But once I got directions, it was fine. All I have to do is go
> >down Chhatrapati Shivaji Road, make a left turn at Chhatrapati Shivaji
> >Chowk, go straight till Chhatrapati Shivaji Marg, until I reach
> >Chhatrapati Shivaji Road. Then I go straight till I come to Chhatrapati
> >Shivaji Chowk.  Once I got lost and found myself at Chhatrapati Shivaji
> >Road instead of Chhatrapati Shivaji Road. Silly mistake, when I think
> >about it.
> >
> >My class teacher, Mr C Shivaji, is a good teacher. Today he asked,
> >"Chhatrapati, can you answer that question?" The whole class put up
> >their hands to answer. Yesterday our school, CS Vidyalaya, had a cricket
> >match with our rival school, CS Vidyalaya. Of course, we don't know
> >which school won. But that's okay.
> >
> >This weekend, my family and I will go to the zoo, Chhatrapati Shivaji
> >Pranibaugh, and see all the, um... plants. There used to be animals
> >there, but they're all dead now. They say it was due to "negligence"
> >because the keepers were all running for government, one of them for the
> >office of Prime Chhatrapati.
> >
> >We have two main telecommunication companies, CSNL and CSNL. One
> >provides telephone services and the other provides broadband MultiNet
> >access via the Chhatrapati Shivaji Satellite. Sometimes we don't know
> >whether we're accessing a website or whether Chhatrapati Shivaji (our
> >grandmother) is calling up.
> >
> >Foreigners are often confused which Paanch Sitaara Vyayamshala (5-ishtar
> >hotel) to stay in, because they all have the same names. I think the
> >Chhatrapati Shivaji Vishramgraha is pretty good, and one should stay
> >there rather than the Chhatrapati Shivaji Vishramgraha or the
> >Chhatrapati Shivaji Vishramgraha.
> >
> >During the weekend, my family and I might go to the beach, the
> >Chhatrapati Shivaji Samudrakinar, and after that we may go see a film.
> >All foreign films are dubbed in Indian languages because, as we are
> >taught in school: (1) Nothing foreign is good, and (2) All things
> >foreign that are good have been stolen from us.
> >
> >I go to sleep pretty early, after watching the popular TV show Kaun
> >Banega Chhatrapati. Tomorrow will be another day... I think.
> >
> >Sometimes, in whispers, I hear stories told of a mythical age long ago,
> >when places and things had different names.
> >
> >Stories of a time when each thing had it's own name, and of a concept
> >called "heterogeneity". It's a legend, only half-believed, of a time
> >when places and things had a history, and the city an identity.
> >
> >Date: 21 November, 370 AC (After Chhatrapati)
> >Place: Chhatrapati Shivaji Mahanagar (Formerly Bombay City)
> >
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